Couldn't have said it better myself. I do agree that some of the changes do need additional iteration. Like the Prime time thing. As it does screw ALOT OF people. But pretty much every other portion of this change is doing what it is intended to do, ENTIRELY shake up nullsec sov warfare. Which is an AMAZING thing. Sov null warfare has been boring as hell for 11 years now. (That's when I joined the game under my first, now sold character which is linked in my bio.) So I'm GLAD they are absolutely tipping sov warfare on it's head. It's PERFECT!

EDIT: But if they keep the prime time thing. When I eventually go back to nullsec, I will be picking a heavy US focused alliance. Considering I'm in the US. That way I won't have a headache every time something needs to be defended.

Two things...

First, CSM..I am yet to actually see a swath of stories this time around on how the CSM wasn't consulted or ignored on the proposed changes. In leiu of that we must assume then the bulk of the CSM gave nodding approval to these changes, and their silence now is approval after the fact (or pansied waiting to see which way popular vote blows first...).

Second, CCP obviously isn't trying to ruin the game. They are perhaps just trying to ruin your game.

The problem with the Entosis trolling isn't that it cannot be countered. It can. The famous "trollceptor" can all be countered by a Rifter with a T1 Entosis link orbiting the structure at 5 km, freezing the timer.

The problem is that countering Entosis trolling is so boring gameplay that you'll wish you'd still be grinding stations in Drakes. Either a mobile group needs to run up and down in the region whacking moles, or every system needs to have guards who just do nothing (or mine/rat at the keyboard) for 4 hours and respond to the ping. If they fail, everyone yell at them because 2 days later 10 nodes needs to be captured. If they win every time, they spent 4 hours of their lives at the keyboard with a handful of trivial killmails.

Again: 4 hours of focused gameplay and practically no result. At least you could watch TV between reloads with the Drake.

The attacker should commit something worth killing, so the defenders - if did their job well - go home with a nice killboard.

Burn it to the ground, CCP. I'll happily rise up from the ashes. :)

Finally caught up with the thread. :)

I'm confident that we've got enough manpower to give "zero craps" about this, and that if anything, we're actually trying to point out an actual problem which'll affect other, smaller groups than us to a much greater degree.

But that'd be ludicrous, right? Because grrgoons.

Attackers SHOULD have the initiative in conflict. Defenders SHOULD be reactive. It's kinda the way these things generally work.

The interceptors ALWAYS have a choice to engage the defender that is forced to come out of their station and react to their presence.

Then you can try to bait them into attacking the wrong ship at the wrong time if you want and turn the tables. If you want more pvp yourself, go out and attack other people, force them to come and defend their territory and get some GFs of your own.

Provi will be far safer than it's ever been under this new system.

Don't allow it.

And what would you say if large alliances were even more vulnerable to it by forcing them to have longer primetimes? I'm thinking 16-24 hours for someone of the size of the CFC/N3

And ofc disregarding any attempts at gaming the system with buffer alliances etc which can be countered with further limitations on sov tba.

Humour me, imagine it is (and I've already stated ideas that would make it possible earlier in the thread)

Now your victims of dickery 24/7 versus being able to inflict it on others only during their 4hr time periods unless you downscale your alliance or number of systems.

So now what's the problem with ceptors?

[They force defenders to undock = they can engage or run away to another system. There's a chance for the attackers to engage in a fight whenever they feel like it just by putting a link on a structure. Sure *some* people are gonna troll and never actually fight because it's the same as blueing all their neighbours, but people that actually want to fight are gonna use this everyday to drag people from their stations and away from the undock radius.

Confirming that new players subscribe to run L4 missions and highsec incursions.

CCP have frequently shown that Null is doing very nicely in terms of rat bounties etc.

If CCP ever decide that they are indeed unbalanced, they will do something about it.